A DELAY AND SOME DISAPPOINTMENT
Recently a couple of events stirred and confused some religious circles in a way quite unnecessary if Christians knew and accepted two very basic traditional principles of the astrology they demonize. It’s relevant to speak of this before dealing with some peculiar facts as they appear to relate to the Covid 19 pandemic and its interpretation as an event.
- Contrary to expectations, July 1st proved no turning point for Israel and various prophetic expectations because Trump did not as expected announce his go-ahead approval for Israel’s annexation of the West Bank.
- Earlier, on 25th June, a certain Kentucky Pastor, Dana Coverstone, went viral on the Net with a “Brace Yourself” message to the churches of especially America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZGxTiX6bY This arose from plausible, persuasively presented vision of very hard times beginning September, with riots, fires, sickness, virtual civil war and, starting November, utter chaos including financial, and foreign intervention, dire situations against which people needed to stock up. This revelation was delivered without the comforting promise of Rapture type deliverance for the believing prepared that in practically all chaos and invasion visions of the kind in recent years usually accompanies such forecasts.
VISION AND THE MARK…OF MERCURY RETROGRADE
Significantly, both mentioned disappointments to popular expectations fell under what’s called Mercury’s apparent retrograde, a regular three week period notorious for confusion, mis and disinformation, failed promises and delays. I don ‘t say this means Coverstone’s dreams were necessarily quite false – his earlier dreams for this year with its virus are attested for and have come true – but one should still check and re-consider things at these Mercury times. As regards July 1st, suitably it was always unlikely Trump would or could make a statement of lasting consequences under the retrograde (ending July 12th). If he had, more than usual trouble would have attended it.
[ For the signs of what has since eventuated in the Abraham Accord of Aug 13th and postponing any annexation, see later in the second half of this article ]
However sincere, Coverstone presently risks seeming like an incarnation of Mercury retrograde itself for an element of contradiction. (His actual birth data is not flattering for accuracy but Mercury in his Aquarian sign on a world point bespeaks the gone-viral status ) He has had a webpage devoted to the post tribulation Rapture theory, but when a concerned pre-tribber contacted him about his vision asking did he believe in pre-trib Rapture, he replied “I do”. And a few days after the first video Coverstone put out another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc1_K6fgcVE&t=5s In this he affirms he is pre-trib – except he believes in a bit of persecution for Christians before it. But from this later Youtube offering, just why Christians and their forecast repentance-preaching might engage “persecution” later this year constitutes some prophecy arguably a little tainted by an element of unexamined evangelical fantasy, an important point beyond present scope but which I touch on in note (1).
Interestingly, and a good example of a familiar “reversal” tendency at Mercury’s turning, when Mercury changed to apparent direct, a visionary called Watchwoman who these last months has been insisting on the imminence of the Rapture (which she had half suspected for Pentecost), posted report of an angelic appearance followed by a divine dream giving her to understand that Coverstone was describing Tribulation time events that would occur post Rapture. A day later she had posted a dream of how a Russian invasion could occur shortly before the Rapture or just possibly simultaneously with it, this claim attributed to a vision of two years ago not fully understood at the time. Well….no doubt anything is possible!
This is not atypical of the large modern prophecy scene in America, especially where the fate of Trump is concerned. He is seen being victorious in the next election, or assassinated, struck ill or legally charged (Coverstone doesn’t even know where Trump is in November as it seems government has collapsed by then and no elections seems implied). It can’t all be true, still less from God – something Americans are too inclined to claim for strong impressions! I’ll reserve for a note a scriptural example of when a forecast can engage a contradiction and is conditional, but it’s the exception (2).
Some visionaries are patently sincere and original, others seem to borrow, perhaps unconsciously, from others and change things following the tide of events. But Magi foresaw Christ’s birth. At the very least some informed astrology could help supply a bit of objectivity as regards likely timing of events or even the probability of their happening at all outside the realm of dreams. I will now look at the Day of the Lord belief.
A “DAY OF THE LORD” QUESTION
Some visionaries regard Covid 19 as a judgement, warning and/or anticipation of apocalyptic endings and the so-called Rapture (harpazo – snatching away). This should mark the termination of the current era and the “dispensation of grace” (equivalent, astrologers would say, to the age of the much believing and forgiving Pisces). If they are not coincidences, the following rather peculiar facts are suggestive for the supposed connection of the Virus with the end of the current age.
To the extent any Rapture event precedes, even introduces, a period of Tribulation which is the “Wrath” or absence of God in which evil is unchecked, (a condition to which believers are said not to be appointed – 1 Thess 9,10 ), it follows that any Rapture has to be simultaneous with or near to the “Day of the Lord”. For the Hebrew prophets a “Day of the Lord” was not good news but rather Judgement (Amos 5:18). Paul says this Day will come “like a thief in the night” (I Thess 5:2), an imagery elsewhere associated with Rapture and apocalypse.
American churches which are more concerned than most with apocalyptic prospects, have descended into much argument about pre, mid or post Tribulation or pre-wrath Rapture scenarios. But if one can just simply understand re “The Day of the Lord” it would seem evident that the majority pre-tribber faction is nearest to the original understanding. The subject is complex, but St Paul’s teaching on Rapture, especially to the Thessalonians, was much involved in assuring the latter that they had not been left to judgement because the “Day of the Lord” had not occurred. If it had, the False Messiah antichrist would have been revealed.
The whole concept of Rapture/Resurrection is so potentially pivotal for history it ought to be shown in some manner on the highly descriptive, still working data for Christianity from its AD 30 birth. And arguably it is, beginning with the following strange cluster of factors via asteroids in the sign of Pisces, sign of the era and lodged in Christianity’s eighth sector of death and transformation.
Improbably and unexpectedly I find there:
Hemera (Day) 19 Pisces 43
Ishii (Lord) 20 Pisces 18
Babylon 20 Pisces 30
Remarkably, a precise connection of Lord/Ishi with Jesus is even suggested by the fact that at Jesus’ birth (see https://wp.me/p2v96G-ip ) his identity-giving sun was almost perfectly opposite Lord from 20 Virgo 14 and with Lord near enough opposite The Part of Redemption which conjuncts Jesus’ sun from 20 Virgo 9. (There may or may not be significance in the fact that both Hemera and Covid have the number 19 attached to them).
Conjunctions are very pro or against something depending on their factors’ intrinsic nature, so that Babylon being closely conjunct Lord could well be significant, especially in any end times contexts and bespeaking enmity. Babylon, which is a multivalent symbol, has been associated over time with everything from the Papacy to America but is really a system: all those political, religious and economic systems which are wealthy, oppressive, opposed to God and liable to persecute any opponents.
Since the “Marriage of the Lamb” is closely linked to the judgements on Babylon of Rev 18, if you believe that America is a, or the, economic arm of “Babylon”, then it would make sense, in line with some visionaries today, that the “Day of the Lord” should occur around the time of an attack upon America that leads on to this “Babylon’s” downfall.
A COVID CONNECTION AND WARNING?
Now for the possible Covid connection some visionaries and dreamers assume.
When I wrote last year about prospects for 2020, I stressed a general turmoil, upheaval and radical changes political and economic and perhaps wars. This was in line with the various portentous eclipses and heavy conjunctions, but I did not foresee plague and virus as such. Conjunctions of especially Saturn and Pluto, but even Jupiter with Pluto, can nonetheless bring death, not least by war. Viruses however have more to do with
a) Neptune in its negative manifestation and
b) Mars for the actual spread of infection.
It happens that both these virus-relevant planets are strong in 2020 because both are strengthened in their own signs, Pisces and Aries respectively.
If you want to read about the dates and astrology of the virus, here is one link (in which following some slowdown of infection the astrologer suspects a second wave in October https://astrostyle.com/astrology-and-the-coronavirus/). But in this article, thinking presumably of Pluto ‘s death associations, against custom he suggests Pluto is any virus. I agree with the consensus view that Neptune is virus which leads me to this point.
NAMING A VIRUS
The Virus was declared a pandemic by WHO on the 11th March at whatever time. Accordingly this date supplies at least one, and a major, chart pattern for the virus. And if I take a UT time for the day from an ephemeris, this shows Neptune to be……..at 20.52 Pisces. In other words it’s at what we saw is that sensitive 20 degrees of Pisces, itself opposite the 20 Virgo of Christ’s birth, which is thus highlighted.
Viruses have come and gone across history, but not regularly on this point on the zodiac. There is accordingly the hint of a potential link of some kind or another of the virus to Christ and “Day of the Lord” issues. Also of interest, on that same March 11 announcement, Uranus the stirrer, the shocking and novelty bringing planet that I warned last year would be involved in the upset and overturn of many things this year, was at 4.08 Taurus. This means it was conjunct from 4.54 Taurus, with Christianity’s natal Part of Imprisonment/ Sorrow. Management of the Virus would be experienced by many like a novel form of restriction and depression; places of worship would even be closed down and hymn singing forbidden (an ominously anti-religious move given the way some demos or swimming pools were tolerated). 4.37 Taurus contains the hell asteroid in the data for Jesus.
SYMBOLISM OR TIMING FACTOR?
Neptune’s position on 11th March is likely significant more by way of general symbolism than for some more precise timing picture towards any “Day of the Lord”. One has to reckon this because neither an outer planet like Neptune, still less any asteroid, will normally be helpful in terms of timing events unless backed up by factors, especially transit triggers from the inner visible planets.
I hesitate to pursue assessment of possibilities for crisis and ending type scenarios for this year. [ but see Part Twp below for a recent attempt – Aug 4th] What’s certain is it is not inappropriate for astrologers or anyone to imagine extreme happenings and reversals for this year and into next. And though some of the would-be visionaries can be exasperating, it is almost inevitable that in absorbing the chaos around us, many will see and grasp something. Such people are not necessarily mad and to be dismissed outright. Even if you baulk at overtly prophetic visionary claims, there is the collective unconscious to factor in. But a bit of objectifying astro wisdom about what amid the claims is most probable and improbable could always help.
CELESTIAL TEST AND SHELF LIFE FOR PRE-TRIB THEORY.
If the widely held pre-trib doctrine (as opposed to mid-trib, post-trib and pre-wrath variations) and visions of its “soon” fulfilment are correct, then the following is the nearest to an acid test from the standpoint of heavenly signs for it. This constitutes informed speculation, not prophecy, but I shall indicate why (as from the early August of this writing) there would likely have to be a six months time frame for it at max and probably less.
In January 2021 the World Economic Forum meets in Davos, Switzerland, to see to some kind of global Re-Set. This is symbolically timely because at the December solstice (a world point) close on Christmas 2020, the great generational chronometers, Jupiter and Saturn will have conjuncted in the sign of the new incoming era Aquarius. Though no one can measure exactly when the age of Pisces (equivalent to St Paul’s “dispensation of grace”) gives way to Utopian (arguably Millennial) Aquarius, most are agreed the December Solstice Aquarius conjunction is the nearest general marker, for the once in approx 2100 year era change.
Davos and January is followed by February and transits of all of Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius and a lunation in that sign at 23 degrees. This is the degree of the moon of the birth of the Antichrist – if he exists and his birth was truly witnessed in vision back in 1962 for which however there’s a good chance. Rather like rabbis in Jerusalem who have spoken of the Messiah delaying his imminent arrival in our times, I have seen opportunities come and go for the birth pattern to the point I have seriously doubted it signifies and should be considered. However that pattern is expressively unique, very suitable and not easily dismissed… and……in 2027 there is an annular eclipse on 23 Aquarius, degree of the February 2021 lunation .
From February 2021 to some time later in 2027 into 2028 (solar eclipses are effective for a year) is 7 years. This is the given time span of the Tribulation under the influence of the AC in especially its second half. Solar eclipses are traditionally ominous for world leaders. If the pre-trib theory is true, the believing prepared of the church would need to have “disappeared” before the AC is manifested and any NWO anticipating the Mark became a serious reality. From Feb 2021 with his pattern so emphasized the AC could forge ahead, either because the January Reset will bring him forward, or even events prior to Davos have already done so making him influential for that meeting and ready to rise rapidly after it. One or the other.
VALUABLE IGNORED INFORMATION: SOME TIME FRAMES
I am not going to do what I can’t do and many would say shouldn’t do anyway, which is to set dates. But I can point to suggestive time frames from mid August onwards.
This is possible not least because I claim to possess a still working efficient birth pattern for Christianity from the first Pentecost, and under the usual rules it has angles, ruler planets, sensitive degrees etc which have relevance to timing and any endings themes. Thus Harold Camping who notoriously spent millions advertising a false Rapture date in 2011, had his natal sun in affliction to the endings-linked angle and opposite the chart’s leading planet for endings (i.e. marital Venus, in cardinal Aries for any quick endings and ruler of Libra, an air sign – the sort of symbolic fit for ideas like sudden aerial Rapture/ wedding as characterizing any ending).
Since astrology does follow rules, however flexibly, and since (despite the Bethlehem Star being Jupiter) Neptune is now almost universally recognized as the Jesus planet and does signal in that capacity, something is implied here. It is highly unlikely such an extreme event as any “Return” of Christ would occur under Neptune direct as opposed to in apparent retrograde.
The retrograde happens every year in its second half from around second half June to late November or early December. For a start this would mean that Passover (nor automatically Pentecost either), could ever be the season if you assume as many do that since the main events of Jesus’ life corresponded to Jewish feasts, the Rapture should do so too.
The only reason to question the rule of retrograde in this case might be to emphasize that at the hidden secret Rapture as opposed to the end of Tribulation appearance to the whole world, Jesus only approaches earth as near as the clouds; he does not set foot on earth, so perhaps would not have completely “returned”. But unless you care to stress that point, in which case Harpazo can be in January or February ’21, it looks like any “Return” in 2020 with its admitted seeming convergence of signs, would need to have occurred before December and this year’s 29th Nov Neptune direct.
SEPTEMBER INGRESS EVIDENCE
A little used traditional method of gauging world trends for three month periods is from Ingress charts. These are set for the time the sun is at equinox and solstice points. The Ingress pattern for 23rd September seems highly significant in some way or other for its links to the pattern for Christianity; and clearly some Christians are going to take this time seriously – I have noticed calls for intense continuous prayer for 22nd Sept,
The list of celestial signs that make for significance are : Mercury at 25 Libra is between Christianity’s endings angle and its Part of the Hour of Marriage (and Part of Divorce as though echoing themes of the Ten Virgins parable). The fated nodes fortunately trine the endings angle from Gemini (sign the Church was born under). Mars (ruler of the church’s destiny section) at 26 Aries is conjunct the natal ruler of the endings sector. Saturn affliction squares the Mars which could make for stress and tension for many. Neptune at 19.14 Pisces conjunts the 19. 42 of the Hemera (i.e.Day of the earlier mentioned Hemera/Ishi conjunction), while it challengingly opposes the 19.14 Virgo of Jesus’ sun, a good time to ring down any curtain on the same Piscean age Jesus has always overshadowed.
Despite this suggestiveness, celestial patterns always run against the problem of “level”. Thus something like ending can be registered here, but obviously there is a difference between an ending and the ending for something, though the more tie-ins, the stronger, more likely the message and concrete action ensuing. The Ingress chart could be showing an intense period of obsession for the entire time between late September and December. We know that such is already virtually guaranteed by the likes of those gone viral forecasts of Coverstone for especially early November and all the religious feeling that will centre around the American elections – if they take place.
The time of Ingress is nonetheless peculiar. It would almost do in its own right as a pattern for a harpazo exit, except that few will, or would want to believe that. They are already decided in their minds that it’s a few days earlier at the Feast of Trumpets (18th/19th Sept, is the clincher. Despite the moon at Trumpets being in (for Christianity) endings-associated Libra, it can’t be said the pattern is notably suggestive. It corresponds to a new moon which at 25 Virgo is at the degree of Messier (Harvester) at Jesus’ birth, but not otherwise hugely significant for the church chart, though I could note as regards Messier, the enigmatic Coverstone in one of his more recent dreams does forecast a great harvest (revival kind) for September.
THE DIFFICULT SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER
Remember that the Coverstone vision and similar from others, considers all of Sept, Oct and Nov difficult, significant months with things getting progressively worse in especially America and people should prepare. Some (I am not sure how or why), believe that implied is that the Rapture occurs during the forecast troubles of September, while others believe that early November’s disasters simply omit the deliverance theme for that period and are more a warning to those who will be left behind (it doesn’t quite fit with telling the church to “Brace yourselves”.
Regardless…..so far as I can see, two periods do stand out between now (early August) and the end of November when Neptune turns direct. These are:
a) the month (a lunation period from August 19th to September 17th ( i.e just before Trumpets), and then
b) the period around early November so highlighted by the Coverstone vision. It is bracketed by the important lunation of 16th October relevant up till Nov 15th when another lunation I won’t go into at 23 Scorpio, opposes Israel’s sun where at very least it could have significance for yet another election currently believed to be very likely for November.
FALL BRIDAL IMAGERY AND MORE
The lunation that gives themes for the four weeks from Aug 19th has its moon is at 26.25 Leo. This is meaningful.
At the birth of Christianity, the moon was at 27.03 of royal Leo, and even before I knew asteroid positions for remote dates, I was sure this moon was the royal bride/church (1 Pet 2:9), a belief justified by years later finding that this same moon is conjuncted by asteroid Church at 26.57 Leo.
In Christianity’s foundation pattern the Father who declares the time of marriage is Abbe. He is at 27 Leo 14 and he gives the bride to the surprising, delayed Groom who is natally opposite at 28 Aquarius 57…… Rather amazingly, this Groom asteroid is even challengingly opposite Wake at 28.39 Leo, which is redolent of the whole theme of needing to be awake for the sudden advent of the Groom. Clearly then, any time this part of the natal pattern is highlighted is an important time to watch for developments within the church.
At the mid August lunation, Mars in Aries at 25.01 hits challengingly opposite Christianity’s Part of the Hour of Marriage and a range of factors the natal pattern shows between 23 and 27 Libra that connect to ending and marriage themes and even possibly suddenly being up into the air, for reasons already given. This lunation at 26 Leo is also opposite Christianity’s Fini (Fr. Finished, finite) asteroid at 25 of shocking Aquarius. We know this asteroid reflects events – it was involved with the unexpected historic departure from the Vatican of Pope Benedict.
Overall I think it’s safe to say that while August’s lunation need not herald ultimate ending, it is likely to be fairly pivotal, an end to something or someone and probably a time of heightened expectation towards the apocalyptic, the marriage/deliverance of church, especially now that it is being so seriously persecuted in many parts of the world from China and N Korea to even India and Nigeria.
BUT NOT ONLY CHURCH ISSUES
All this is terribly suggestive, but since with or without any input from a Mars trigger, lunations have occurred at 26 Leo across history, again this pattern is not in itself conclusive prophecy….however at this point in time and with repeated prophecies from Jerusalem about a coming Messiah, (Rabbi Glazerson says a September arrival is supposedly in the Bible Codes, a system I don’t endorse), there is the question who and what else might be affected under this potent lunation. [As of 23rd Aug, the Rabbi Rav Dayan Elgrok has said from Jerusalem that the coming September Feast of Trumpets will be the last before the Messiah appears. And in line with such expectations negotiations are going ahead to have the Shofar blown at the festival from the Temple Mount area for the first time since the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD ]
The September/Trumpets lunation happens to oppose Israel’s Tempel (sic) asteroid in the house of the nation’s much disputed land and Temple Mount area. So anything from questions and agreements to wars could occur over these matters – and that could even be the main thing in August following the raising of an Israeli flag on the Temple Mount at the end of July on Israel’s traditionally difficult to tragedy linked 9th of Av date. The August lunation conjuncts Israel’s destiny house Mars, ruler of its house of the military, so this is an on-the-edge situation. [Sept 17 – note that the signing ceremonies for the peace accord on the 15th was shortly followed up by a rocket attack on Israel from Gaza ]
But the August lunation also conjuncts the chart for the AC who is expected to manifest to the world once the church would be out of the way. 26 Leo conjuncts, potentially touching off, all of that person’s chart ruler (Uranus), Regulus the fixed star of power, royalty and fame, and the asteroid Achristou which I find has an association with occultism and the dark side. Before the public, or just behind the scenes, he could make strides at this time.[During August Israel media featured re prominent rabbis expecting a soon messianc appearance ]
Where’s Trump? Given the various fates that get attached to him by would-be prophets, and given his absence from Coverstone’s November scenario, it could be meaningful that the mid August lunation falls conjunct Trump’s ascendant from the twelfth house of hidden enemies. It’s anyway an ascendant which contains a Mars a Mars conjunct it from the twelfth. This is a combination containing a hint of danger and violence to the person. In November Coverstone foresees total breakdown with no real government managing affairs. If true, the origins of that situation could go back to events of the lunation period that starts 19th August.
NOVEMBER CRISIS POTENTIAL
The lunation of Oct 16th which is effective till Nov 15th has to be significant if dire forecasts for November are valid, but also because, like August’s lunation hitting on Christianity’s moon/church conjunction, this lunation is instead conjunct the religion’s ending angle. Since any chart’s ending angle at another octave determines the sector involved with property issues, it could be we are only looking at a period when attacks upon church property increase; but obviously some kind of end is possible. And I cannot overlook that at the beginning of November, Mercury at 26 Libra is pointing to a cluster of ending factors for the Church chart. And there is more, of which presently, but we maybe need to look at another point first, namely what is potentially shown for America and war at this time?
Astrologically this involves the question of the position of warlike Mars in war sign Aries at this time and following heavy eclipse factors this year like the last lunar one directly opposite America’s sun. On 1st and 2nd November Mars is at 16 Aries, though not as one might suppose exactly opposite an important factor like America’s natal Saturn in Libra at 14 degrees. (Mars doesn’t have to be exact in that way, but for truly momentous events such would be likely and could be ominous that the prior lunation will have tension squared America’s Mercury, ruler of the national sector of death for the chart I use. Also of relevance to the picture is that Mars at this time is in apparent retrograde.
A relevant, well-established rule is that whoever starts a war under Mars in apparent retrograde will lose. Any enemies of America should therefore be or finish disadvantaged, not victors in apparent charge, as per the Coverstone vision. Except.….it’s true that after America’s Mars having been direct since national foundation, it has in recent years turned retrograde by what’s called symbolic progression. That would indicate loss of power, some military vulnerability and disadvantage. So, if November is violent, in the long term we could be looking at a lose/lose situation for all concerned.
MARRIAGE AMID OR FROM DANGER?
An irony attaches to the Coverstone vision of a chaotic, invaded America. There are some signs early November could actually correspond to the kind of deliverance event the pastor omits and which some of his defenders maintain he simply wasn’t shown rather than it’s absent because it represents false hope. ….. Such an omission is actually possible because on Nov 1st and 2nd, Mercury is on 26 Libra which engages the whole endings and marriage theme in Christianity’s pattern.
It is of course possible in the usual way with matters of “level” that one is looking at strong hope and expectation rather than reality; but there is this peculiarity to the picture. Shocking, surprising Uranus in on 8 Taurus at the time. The foundation chart for America that I and many use, has 8.35 Taurus on its descendant angle, (the cusp both of marriage and open enemies psychologically on some Taming of the Shrew basis). Just this placement of surprising Uranus would allow the symbolism of a “marriage” of sorts at the time of conflict and invasion. Especially as for Christianity, its natal Part of Marriage is at 8.28 Taurus a position Uranus won’t conjunct again unless briefly in March ’21, for 84 years. That some attack and/or marriage could well be involved, is suggested by the way the just prior Halloween full moon of Oct 31st falls on 8.38 Taurus. By tradition the period of the full moon onwards clarifies or brings to a head what the new moon implied. And with the sun also opposite Uranus around this time, expect any shocks.
[ Possibly of real significance in all this is a youtube from Aug 1st that I have only belatedly seen, but which could resolve contradictions started by Coverstone and would seem to render the period from 31st Oct to Nov 2nd very sensitive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hSFyjQFiU0 I would note it is the rarest of dreams which like this suggests, as seems reasonable enough to do, a time frame (3 months) as opposed to giving none at all or more rarely and improbably and against the rules, supplying an exact date and time ]
One of the reasons Rapture doctrine has always been so elusive and confusing is because the Venus that is its “ruler” for the subject, is natally “afflicted” by Neptune at 23 Capricorn (along with Anastasia meaning Resurrection which the Rapture also is for deceased believers). Positively Neptune is Jesus and compassion and highest ideals. Negatively any Neptune affliction creates anything from hyper-mystery to lies and any AC type deception. In early November Pluto, the death, creation and destruction planet is at 22 Capricorn, stirring up the natal Neptune. If anything like Rapture occurred it would certainly produce mystery and deceptive coverage!
TO SUM UP
If the pre-tribulation Rapture has validity, things are by now at a point it can be given a real test and a shelf life and “soon” cannot be indefinitely applied to it. A pre-trib rapture would not mean much unless it occurred prior to implementation of a new global system virtually now guaranteed to develop in the new year. Between economies and vaccines and in the wake of new era conjunctions plus signs for the AC, any deliverance would presumably need to occur before that new beginning.
Some would hope and imagine the harpazo could await till Pentecost 2021 and so occur as they imagine on a feast day. It’s obviously possible, but it’s questionable. Pentecost in 2021 falls on May 23rd. After, rather than before that on the 26th May, an eclipse falls opposite Christianity’s natal sun which must be relevant to something. But in 2021 Neptune does not go direct till near the end of June and Uranus has gone past its rare contacts with the Part of Marriage. For various reasons I would be more inclined to see the signs for around next Pentecost as almost more befitting the pursuit and/or regrouping of the left behind than any expectant believers.
So…..my informed speculation is that the expectant have till February if they are content to exclude the Neptune retrograde factor; or they have some time before the end of November if they do not factor that in. Again I would recommend the above mentioned youtube of Aug 1st (see sub-section Marriage amid or from Danger ) as deserving attention, perhaps overcoming Coverstone confusion and rendering the end Oct, beginning November period the most sensitive time.
There is no pattern, prophecy of speculation in this area which to my knowledge resolves every possible requirement – if we understand the requirements aright. Thus there do seem to be references to summer and grinding at the mill which bespeaks marriage around the season of harvest and Pentecost (Matt 24:40. But since the same forecast sees some in the field, some in bed, that bespeaks an event that could occur over different time zones and continents and so could be given to any season. St Paul’s sudden Rapture takes place following a declaration concerning “peace and security” (1Thess 5:2). What lull could be meant? Some consider this involves Israel and the Peace Treaty, others a pause in the progression of the current virus.
[ It is now conceivable Aug 13th’s announcement of the peace and safety invoking Abraham agreement of involving Israel, Trump and the UAE introduces that lull…..That the latest agreement IS major can be gauged by the signs. Venus (anything peace) was conjunct modern Israel’s foundational Venus, Mercury (any deal/ agreement) was conjunct the degree of Israel’s Saturn in Leo (by tradition always tricky), which is in Israel’s destiny sector, while Mars was conjunct Israel’s interesting conjunction of the asteroids Abramenko with Achristou which last over the years I have seen seems to work as an Antichrist associated indicator. Need I spell out the arrangement is significant but doesn’t necessarily bode well ]
There is no guarantee about the plausible connection to Jewish feasts in this case which if a valid belief could anyway compromise the element of surprise and immanency. To the extent one could see hints of a northern autumn open return of Christ to earth, reading back seven years from that could favour a harpazo event at some time in autumn rather than summer; but, as said, nothing will be absolutely conclusive – would it be a surprise otherwise?
However, I don’t doubt with a subject like this that it would be clear enough as a pattern in the heavens after the event. The most one can offer otherwise is the most credible, probable time frames and I think the above does that as far as is possible. Even the magi, themselves evidently sometimes influenced by dreams, probably only knew a general time frame for Jesus’ birth even though it is possible with hindsight to see with accuracy the precise data for the birth. What is certain is that we stand at the very end of an era and nothing will be quite the same again.
AND FINALLY….AN INDEPENDENT CONFIRMATION
Unless one would insist it was the most unusual of coincidences, the following is as near to confirmation as could be hoped for of what I suggest in this article. My source is the following youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_8CJRlMo0&t=1141s starting around 10 mins in which covers the person’s story of years long puzzle over the site of their Rapture vision and finally recently discovering re the Dallas Rapture picture which prompts his further puzzlement over the why and when of discovery which he addresses to God. I quickly made the following comment in the Reply section……
|I have further news to this confirmation and the Dallas picture. As soon as I heard it was painted in 1974, though I should have preferred an exact date within the year, I guessed I would find something and I did. The matter will be clearer if you read especially the second part of this recent article of mine “Covid SIgns and Symbols – Perhaps” in which I define not the day but the necessary time frame for any Rapture if the pre-trib doctrine will ever now be valid. See. https://wp.me/p4kNWg-BW. For most of 1974 into November, the planet of extremes, shocks surprises and the future was prophetically back and forth over the 23 – 27 Libra range that contains the sensitive degrees for anything to do with marriages and endings for Christianity. I am satisfied we have both arrived at a truth by different routes. Also of interest is that I find asteroid Dallas, not known, seen or named at the time of the birth of the church, was conjunct Neptune which, depending on the octave of reference, is anything from mysteries, such as the Rapture necessarily is, to Jesus.
- It soon becomes apparent that the persecution-invoking repentance preaching will be much against abortion and “alternative lifestyles”, in short America treated principally and narrowly as a Sodom and Gomorrah awaiting its end. True there’s an excess of abortion in America while LGBTQ can be variously over the top and as meanly litigious as some Christians trying to legislate for an imagined City of God. The abortion scandal isn’t grounds to condemn as virtual murderers or devotees of Moloch all those who ever had some extreme and rational ground for a serious decision. Nor is there justification to dismiss as unrepentant “lifestyle” the conviction of any gay person who realized their orientation was such meaningfully. Too many gays have been thrown out of homes, discriminated against and suicided for American evangelicals not themselves to be repenting and learning more instead of rendering gays the black sheep sealing America’s judgement. With extreme literalists like Coverstone, almost anything can finish defended on a Calvinistic basis as “God’s Word” ignoring that “God’s Word” means primarily Christ himself, not the scripture which will sometimes need interpretative revision.
2. . In 1 Sam 23 King David consults the high priestly oracle about whether his enemy Saul would come down to where he was in Keilah. God’s e reply is that yesSaul will. David then inquires will the men of Keilah hand him over to Saul and the answer is yes. David’s response is to leave Keilah with his men. When Saul learns that David has left Keilah he gives up on his expeditionary plans. So Saul didn’t come to Keilah as God had said. Was the prophecy false? In practice the reality seems to be as years ago the late Catholic seeress Jeane Dixon insisted, forecasts are of two kinds. Most have a conditional element, will describe what is developing at the time and there is scope for the person(s) addressed to change the situation. Only at the level of divine “vision” which is above intuition or dreams, must the prophecy occur, the only variable being the time line, the hardest thing for the visionary to read – it is often like looking down a corridor of time and guessing a proportion of the length as marking the event.